| One of the less great "thus sayeth the
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| | hell.
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| Lord" moments in the Bible was the
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| | I still vote Rodney King of "Can't we
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| imposition of the very well know
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| | all just get along" fame be head of the
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| principle of "an eye for an eye and and a
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| | UN or at least advise the next President.
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| tooth for a tooth." I understand that an
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| | This one would just say "No".Speaking of
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| apologist can say it just means that
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| | the current powers that be, its
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| people should be paid restitution for
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| | disturbing just how difficult if not
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| losses, but in practice, Governments and
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| | impossibe it is for anyone to get to talk
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| most Evangelicals, love the literal
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| | with this guy when sabre's are a rattlin'
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| translation. I assume that also went on
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| | and agendas are a formin'. Seems the
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| to mean to those who know the deeper
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| | converstaion goes something like this.The
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| meanings of such things that it could
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| | Threatened: "Can we talk?"The Decider:
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| also mean, "a leg for a leg", "a spine
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| | "No"The Threatened "Would you like
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| for a spine," and "a skull for a skull."
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| | to debate it?"The Decider "No"The
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| While God claimed the exclusive right to
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| | Threatened "Would you like to come
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| vengeance in the Old Testament (Psalms
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| | look?"The Decider "No"The
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| 94:1 O Lord, the God who avenges, O God
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| | Threatened "Could we have lunch?"The
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| who avenges, shine forth." and in the
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| | Decider "No"The Threatened "May
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| New Testament, (Romans 12:19 "Do not take
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| | I send you some Pistachio nuts?"The
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| revenge, my friends, but leave room for
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| | Decider "No"The Threatened
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| God's wrath, for it is written: "It is
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| | "Would you like to kill me, my family,
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| mine to avenge; I will repay," says the
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| | lots of children, women, men and our
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| Lord,) the Israelites pretty much did the
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| | younger generation and take all our
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| work for Him, and the Christians who
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| | resources under your supervision?"The
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| evolved to make up the Church of history
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| | Decider "Now your talkin, get on
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| did a darn nice job of inflicting God's
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| | the floor!"I don't know where religion
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| wrath upon both the believer who believed
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| | came up with the idea that vengeance,
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| the wrong thing and unbeliever who needed
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| | retaliation and revenge was a great
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| to be pursuaded.As a child, when hearing
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| | characteristic for a Deity and one that
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| this all in Sunday School, I had a
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| | was so well advised to follow. In
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| picture of all the people in the Old
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| | practical fact, few really practice the
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| Testament running around blind and
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| | religion of their guru. They find ways
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| toothless and it explained why Jesus may
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| | around it so they can manipulate the
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| have had so many blind people to heal in
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| | results and take the short cuts they wish
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| the New. I don't recall Jesus restoring
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| | for personal gain, power and prestige,
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| any teeth however.Later I began to think
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| | and yet retain a form of the religion
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| that vengeance was one thing reserved
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| | that they must appease to get selected or
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| only for God, but retaliation must be
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| | elected in the first place. Smoke and
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| somewhat of a more subtle human endeavor.
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| | mirrors, masks and make-up...it's what
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| You know, a way around the problem of
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| | most "World Leaders" and human beings who
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| not being allowed to inflict vengeance
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| | profess to know and need to propel them
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| per se. But then I find that Jesus nixed
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| | to places of authority and power use
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| the idea of retalaliation with his own
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| | against aveage humans.No one seems to
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| example in 1 Peter 2:23. "When they
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| | notice that when Moses is said to have
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| hurled their insults at him, he did not
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| | come down the mountain with the Big Ten,
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| retaliate; when he suffered, he made no
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| | one of which said, "Thou shalt not kill,"
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| threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to
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| | and before reading them to the troops,
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| him who judges justly. " But then I got
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| | got pissed off at the people for
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| to thinking about the entire theme of the
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| | wondering where he had been, and had
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| Book of Revelation, where Jesus, well the
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| | "every man slay his neighbor and in that
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| Cosmic Jesus at least, wreaks vengeance,
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| | day about 3000 perished," and then went
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| revenge and retaliation big time upon the
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| | back to explaining the wonderful new Law
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| entire planet for not going with the
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| | of God he had been given by the Deity
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| program. The Jesus of the Gospels might
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| | Himself! It's almost as bad as Cain
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| be the distant cousin of the Jesus of
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| | worrying about "every man who finds me
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| Revelation, but I don't think the Jesus
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| | shall slay me," when God booted him out
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| of the Gospels could actually be the
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| | of the Garden, but never stopped to think
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| Jesus of Revelation, at least not without
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| | that there were only four people on earth
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| a change of brain chemistry and his
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| | at the time and he had just killed one of
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| Meyers-Briggs Personality Profile. So
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| | them." Actually it was the writer of
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| then I got to thinking that it's not that
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| | the story who had a brain fart. But in
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| you can't retaliate or get vengeance, but
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| | the Bible and in the Middle East and now
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| you have to wait until you have tried
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| | in America, it's really all about
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| everything else before scraping your
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| | vengeance, retaliation and revenge. The
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| enemies off the face of the earth. But
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| | go nowhere and accomplish nothing but the
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| then I learned from President Bush and my
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| | death of a few hundred thousand
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| government that trying everything only
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| | doctrine.The fact is that it does not
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| took a few weeks at most, and never
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| | work and no one is ever satisfied that
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| worked so you had to bomb the sh-- out of
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| | enough is enough. Who gives up their
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| people quickly and with shock and awe.
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| | last son and says they no longer wish to
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| Yeah, that works and in a very short time
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| | take another man's son to pay him back?
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| people are apologizing for 911 and
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| | Who then says "I will if you will," and
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| wondering what were they thinking?I did
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| | they will! Who loses a tooth and does
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| read an interesting study once by a
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| | not wish to retaliate by punching out all
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| psychologist who felt Jesus could have
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| | the teeth of the attacker? Who gets
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| written Revelation (the intro does say
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| | their eye poked and doesn't wish to
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| it is His revelation) in his later years
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| | totally blind the poker? Well we did
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| when delusions and schizophrenia would
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| | have the example of a Pope who forgave
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| have been at it's worst. I was taught he
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| | the man who shot him in a very dramatic
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| channeled it through John which is how we
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| | scene in the man's cell. But remember,
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| got it. The fact that it said 2000 years
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| | the Pope is a Professional forgiver!
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| ago that it was the story of things which
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| | It's not like he can demand to go in and
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| "must shortly come to pass" kinda bothers
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| | shoot the man twice for him shooting him
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| me because that's not my personal idea of
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| | once! No one, and certainly no one in
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| "shortly." Maybe someone missed their
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| | this administration, has the insight or
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| cue.But then I wonder if that's not
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| | foresight to try a new way that excludes
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| what's happening to our leaders today.
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| | the idea of being the bully and getting
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| It would explain a lot. I wonder if they
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| | even. Of course a more pure motive and
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| might be thinking of writing their own
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| | heart would go a long way too.What a
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| Revelation and pouring out all their own
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| | different world it might be today if men
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| vials and plagues along with the blowing
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| | had no agendas and that when 9-11 came
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| of assorted trumpets. Kinda worries me.
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| | calling we had an enlightened leader who
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| I have noticed the President and friends
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| | was not connected like a mass of worms in
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| tend to surround themselves with those
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| | a can to other plans and masters. The
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| who read the Book of Revelation like a
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| | buck might stop with someone, somewhere,
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| newspaper and see themselves in some of
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| | but vengeance, retaliation and revenge
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| the leading roles.At any rate, let's get
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| | seems to be what humans demand and we get
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| back to this idea about vengeance, no
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| | over and over what we see today... blood,
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| matter who it belongs to, retaliation and
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| | anquish, hatred, car bombs, depleted
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| revenge. As far as I can tell it does
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| | uranium by the ton, birth defects,
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| not seem to promote anything but
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| | cancers and terrorism we never would
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| vengeance, retaliation and revenge, which
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| | have had if there was a genuine leader in
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| seems counterproductive. When the
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| | place in all these countries, ours
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| Hatfields and McCoys went at it over
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| | included. As long as "God told me attack
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| decades I believe, all we ended up with
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| | Sadaam and I did," is the mentality,
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| was less of each and a great story....all
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| | (how scary is this?) and my YHVH can
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| because of a pig I believe. Actually I
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| | woop your Allah is the stupidity that
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| have lived in Eastern Kentucky and
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| | rules in the minds of world leadership,
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| vengeance, retaliation and revenge is
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| | we're in for hell on earth...again and
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| what you do in them thar hills because
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| | again and again, worldcrap without end.I
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| reception of both TV and radio signals is
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| | know I'd feel a lot better if our current
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| so bad. There is little else to do or
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| | President conferred with the Dali Lama
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| talk about after the day is done without
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| | more frequently instead of the Boys of
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| those modern conveniences. It is no
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| | Revelation and those of Evangelical
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| coincidence that the Hatfield and McCoy
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| | Zionist Christianity gone nuts. But then
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| thing eased up a bit right about the time
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| | I'd be afraid this President would think
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| you could put that one big ass satellite
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| | it funny and welcome him by saying "Well
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| dish in your front yard! I often saw
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| | Hello Dali!...hehe," and not understand a
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| dishes almost half as broad as the house,
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| | word much less a concept he endeavored to
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| but darn it, there was peace in that
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| | explain about the futility of vengeance,
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| family and surrounding county. Watching
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| | retaliation and revenge propelled by
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| the Dukes of Hazard is safer than BEING
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| | religion out of control. I'd be afraid
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| the Dukes of Hazard!I've been to the
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| | he'd embarass me again.I know...I'm too
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| Middle East where every stone upon the
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| | idealisitc and don't understand a thing
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| ground has been thrown at sometime, by
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| | about how people end up where they do in
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| someone, at someone for some reason and
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| | places of power and what's really going
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| often. The Middle East is the Land of
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| | on. Ok, well maybe I am not letting on
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| Handy Stones or perhaps we should say the
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| | to as much as I do know. But it's past
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| Land of "Oh Yeah? Yeah!, Oh Yeah?
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| | time... way past time, to replace a Deity
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| Yeah! I know you are but what am I, Oh
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| | and His chosen religio-political minions
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| Yeah? Yeah? Make me! Take that! Doh!"
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| | who believe vengeance, retaliation and
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| It's all nuts. Kinda like growing up in
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| | revenge are the fruits of their Holy
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| the 50's picturing the launch of one
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| | Spirit that will bring their idea of the
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| missle that lead to two back that lead to
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| | Kingdom of God for us all to regret.
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| twenty that led to a hundred that led to
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